The Intelligence Stat

As I'm sure many of you have noticed, several characters on this forum have quite low intelligences, because, on this site, intelligence is something of a 'dump stat' as there is no real way to measure it and use it in combat without metagaming (sometimes). So, my proposal is to make the intelligence stat a little more desirable to have by giving benefits to high intelligence scores. Thus far, I have come up with two systems governing intelligence that I think would be fair.

System 1: "Urahara Route"
This system is designed to emulate how an extremely intelligent character like Urahara, while perhaps not as physically strong or fast as a character like Yammy, might be able to best him using his prodigious intellect. In this system, a person who is fighting someone who is 15 or lower intelligence points than them gets a bonus to dodge attacks. That is to say, if Combatant A has 15 more intel points than Combatant B, he gets a a bonus to dodge as if he had more points in speed. The bonus to dodge increases we'll say by the number of points the two intel scores differ in starting at a +5 bonus at a 10 point disparity with an additional +1 bonus for every point of intel disparity past the 10 point mark.

So for example, let's say
Combatant A has 20 speed, and 30 intel

and

Combatant B has 20 speed, and 20 intel.

Combatant A has 10 points more in intel than Combatant B, and so would receive a +5 bonus to dodge or otherwise avoid an attack as if he had an extra 5 points in speed. In this case, 25 speed as opposed to 20 speed doesn't make much of a difference, but let's say

Combatant A has 30 speed and 40 intel

and

Combatant B has 30 speed and 20 intel.

Since Combatant A's intel is 20 points greater than Combatant B's, which, after the 10 point mark, is another 10 points, he/she would gain a dodge bonus to speed of +15, which is definitely more significant.

Hopefully those two examples have made it clear what I mean by this system. If you have questions, please ask, I will do my best to clarify.


System 2 "Tech System"
This system is a lot simpler. As I'm sure you know, a lot of the characters in Bleach have more than the number of techs each of our characters are legally allowed. For example, Hitsugaya's Hyorinmaru has a hell of a lot more techs than we are allowed. So...this system is basically, the more intel you have, the more extra techs you get to have. I propose for this one that for every 10 intel points past 10, a character gets to learn a new technique, whether they be Shinigami, Hollow/Arrancar, Bount, Quincy, or Superhuman.

So for example, Character A has 20 intel. In addition to the 3 Shikai techs/abilities that he will eventually be able to obtain, he gets an extra one free of charge. Character B, with 40 intel, would be able to obtain 3 extra techniques. Simple, right? Or...instead of having new Zanpakuto abilities/techs, a character could perhaps design a custom kido or cero without the training thread as a reward. Or, if you're the science-y type, perhaps a piece of technology that functions as a technique, i.e. perhaps you replace your left kneecap with a device that shoot a Shakkaho spell every other post or something, minus the incantation.

So anyway, this ends my spiel about how we can turn intel into an actually desirable stat, instead of having characters who are like ridiculously high in all the combat stats but have like 5 in intelligence.

Leave it as it is.

but as it is, intelligence doesn't really give any measurable benefit- this way, we'll have more balanced characters. i mean, when we create NPC stats for the big dumb type, their intelligences are always low, around 5-ish. PC characters who have the same amount of intelligence should act the same, but pretty much don't, because you can't exactly tell someone to 'rp your character dumber'. this gives more versatility and character balance

Ya know i voted to do away with Intell many moons ago but somehow we ended up with it affecting Kido. Anywho, no i don't think it should really make a difference. Sal has 5 Intel, he isn't dumb but he certainly isn't one for tactics unless hack and slash is a tactic o.O

I like this idea Ayame, but I think INT should become a "Hidden Factor" Both abilities make sense to me, but telling others about will result in more people trying to play the number game than actually posting. If you look at the Anthony Rourke character Shikuro tried to make. He claims that since his INT is so high he shouldn't have to go through the "boring" low levels. He's made himself a business super genius with his own company with a talking portable computer. Okay he's smart enough for it, but that shouldn't mean you don't start at rank 0. And just by getting high INT we should give them an easy time with techs and abilities. I'm sure everyone would start pumping into INT at that point.

What I mean by hidden factor is that when character suggests a new move, we (mods and admins) look at it when judging if the character can pull it off. When someone is called out for "Godmodding" we look at INT and say "Well he could possibly pull it off." We can fully define the stats, but the less we tell the players about it the better. I've played videogames where I'll try to max the stats to better my character more than I'll try something new and interesting. Classic elf thief for the extra Dexterity, If I can get 2 more Strength, but have to look like crossdressing midget, I'll do it. (don't ask) The idea works honestly. Just that the more numbers matter the less they'll try to write.

I like everything Mar said, but I kind of think that the inventions idea has merit too. We'd have to make the required intel a major high level like 40 or 50, but at that point PC's should be able to make personal inventions like Urahara and Mayuri always did. Not unlimited inventions of course...maybe one for every increment of 10 stat points in Intel.

I already agreed with the inventions bit, I kinda skipped over all that stuff so i didn't know it was an issue.

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Tech System

I did just RP an invention. My current INT is only 20. But like I said, I like both options. I plan to add more INT either way, even if it doesn't benefit me lol.

Well I've got a question. The intell can foresee an attack if used correctly and it helps with kidou, but what about hallows, quincy, and super-humans who can't use kidou?

A fine question. For the most part I have no clue. But I can put forth some guesswork. Hollow only have Cero when it comes to spells. So how can they benefit from higher INT? For the most part it might work with the tech like system. You may have only 3 powers, but with high int (alot thought) application of that power might give you a sub power or ability. Really not much more I can think of atm

@Saroki: Ahh Kido, I see a certain captain with five intelgence pulling of, or at least trying to, a hado 91. *coughkaiyocough*

And yeah so a purpose, so... hmm there is no rank 3's... so lets use you and Ayame for example... So his 25 point difference in intel is really going to help overturn a 14 point difference in Spirit power. No. Not really, and i have seen characters come up with clever stragies with or without an intel stat...

Ahh Kaito here is where you are wrong

https://thebleachworld.darkbb.com/t1500-alright

I've voted for the Tech System, as that is sorta reasonable and the only one of the ideas I would support though as it is is also fine as it is really. If you feel neglected and unfairly treated by the fact that you ain't getting enough for your Int maybe that just weren't the char for you really.

A high Int char would have battle Tactics and measurements to predict stuff allready as it is, make out plans for escaping useing the enviroments better and stuff like that. Set up traps... as those who haven't got atleast some int on their chars have proberly never even thought about setting up traps to help you, and to plan ahead before facing someone, all depending on how you've been wanting your char to use its Int you can even make a Char thats good at profilling predicting movements even so much that after facing another char you might be able to even say lure him into a field cause you knew the char would answer and that way make the battle be fought on your terms. I expect if you use ranged weapons aswell Int would have just as high a factor to hitting as Fighting skill as the mesurements of Distance, speed, and wind comes very much into play, maybe not in mid ranged, but in high ranged such as sniping or something it really should.

Too Clarify something... I never said I should skip the first few ranks cause of the high Int I said I would like to ask for more ranks so my Char would be able to do more than he could with the stats plot wise... as what I want him to do right now I can't due to the fact a Rank 0 shouldn't be able to do that.

And Marly the Kido int benefit is really a good thing, but with that you're only giving reasons for Shinigami to pick the stat not Superhumans, Quincy's or anyone else.