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Arawn
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 |  Subject: Ginto List (Open for submissions)  Wed Oct 19, 2011 6:11 pm | |
| This will be the listing of the Ginto used by Quincy. Please follow the same rules as Kido submission. Ginto- Spoiler:
Rank 1
Lancet – First of the Five Feathers. This technique creates spear of energy stronger than a Quincy’s normal arrow shot. Although it appears to be a beam of light, the energy it’s composed of is spiraled towards the point: A drilling arrow. It’s length measures 3 ½ feet and is quite defined and thin. If the shooter is accurate enough, they will hit exactly on the point within a millimeter. The main draw back is that its size does lower the damage area, but can pierce through the toughest of materials/targets.
Rank requirement: 2
Ginto tube requirement: 1
Chant: "A feather cast upon the wind, it seeks freedom, so begins it’s lonely journey.”
Glasern Pyrimade (Glass Pyramid) – An equilateral triangle appears on the ground, size adjusted by will of caster. Crystals two feet high emerge from at each point of the triangle. Light shines from between all the posts creating a shielded area then travels above the target to enclose the space. Like it’s name it resembles a pyramid. Protects target from all directions even beneath their feet. With enough force it can be shattered or canceled by the caster. This technique can be used to keep attackers at bay, or to seal an opponent’s movements.
Rank requirement: 1
Ginto tube requirement: 1
Regen (Rain) – fires a burst of energy into the air which explodes much like a firework. Slivers of energy come raining down around the launching point (center) covering a small 20 foot radius. The slivers are shaped like miniature spears and explode shortly after coming in contact with a spiritual being; Hollow, shinigami, other quincy, or superhuman. Otherwise they just disappear. You can subsequently use more Ginto tubes to make a stronger effect, raining more arrows down in a larger radius, 10 additional feet per extra Ginto tube used. Maximum of 3 additional tubes.
Rank requirement: 1
Ginto tube requirement: 1-3
Heizen (Sacred Bite) – This technique creates a transparent, rectangular beam of energy from the silver tubes which slices through the opponent.
Rank requirement: 1
Ginto tube requirement: 1
Chant:"Feel the wrath of battle and accept this sacred chalice"
Rank 2
Duetto – Second of the Five Feathers. This technique creates two balls of light that connect to each other with a band of light. Once the band of light is struck by the target the balls of light fly and entangle. This is a bolo effect; the band of light expands as the lights entrap the target. The duration lasts until broken or dismissed.
Rank requirement: 2
Ginto tube requirement: 2
Turm’s Belagerung (Tower's siege) – Using ginto to create a large stationary bow, the quincy is then free to concentrate only on making an large arrow. The concentration of energy makes the arrows more potent and destructive. Works like a ballista.
Rank requirement: 2
Ginto tube requirement: 1
Rank 3
Saga (Old English for Saw) – Third of the Five Feathers. This skill makes a 2 ½ foot ring of energy that acts much like a buzz saw. It can be launched from the caster’s hand or kept mounted above the hand. It travels slower than most arrow shots. Although it’s ability to cut is strong, it’s a defensive ability is low. It can be shattered with another attack, and once launched it dissipates quickly. (I figured this makes a pseudo close range weapon for the Quincy. Technically not a sword, but it works like one.)
Rank requirement: 3
Ginto tube requirement: 1
Wall - Fourth of the Five Feathers. It simply makes a disc of energy a Quincy can use as a directional shield. It is capable of withstanding very strong attacks both physical and energy based. In addition it can be used to ride upon and fly/move. It requires a lot of energy to move so can be a tiring, and it moves only normal speed at best. The energy used to maintain and move the flying disc reduces the Quincy’s power. Shots become weaker due to the strain, but using as a shield is the primary use.
Rank requirement: 3
Ginto tube requirement: 1
Chase bomb (can’t think of better name sorry) – Three flames appear before the caster’s hand, they race long the ground (or any other surface) towards the target. They then fuse together then detonate. The spell is limited to some kind of surface; wall, floor, earth, stone, etc.
Rank requirement: 3
Ginto tube requirement: 2
Rank 4
Shatter – Fifth and Final Feather. This creates a large ball of light that is then hurled at an enemy. Upon detonation this releases an omni directional attack; 360 degrees horizontal and vertical is bombarded with energy spears similar to Lancet. Anything within 20 feet gets skewered. For anyone that’s played a FPS this is a Hedgehog bomb. And like the games this attack is a danger to both friend and foes. Anyone caught in the range will be subject to the attack even the user. The casting time and inability to launch the weapon make it’s uses limited, but is potent when used properly.
Rank requirement: 4
Ginto tube requirement: 2
Gravity well. (Schwerkraft-Brunnen) - The Quincy opens two Ginto tubes and spills one in front of him/her and one behind. A large circle encompassing 30 feet around the Quincy is formed. This radius will make it more difficult for everyone other than the user to move. Lowering their speed stat by 10. The hue of this technique is based on the color of the users Reiryoku.
Rank Required: 5
Ginto tubes required: 2
Rank 5
Gritz (Quintuple Binding Frames) – This technique forms a man-sized pentagonal Quincy cross which envelops its target.
Rank requirement: 5
Ginto tube requirement: 1
Chant: "A silver rod strikes the five-fingered stone bed"
Rank 8
Wolke - This technique uses a silver tube to create a large blast. While it may not be intended for use as such, Uryū uses it to cushion the impact of a fall.
Rank Requirement: 8
Ginto Requirement: 1
Chant: "Tilt the goblet to the west"
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|  | | Arawn
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Registration Date : 2010-06-23
| | Subject: Re: Ginto List (Open for submissions) Mon Jan 16, 2012 6:00 am | |
| Natürlicher Magnet (Lodestone) - With this spell a small blue aura is generated around the target binding it in place with the earth's magnetic field. Can be used on living and inanimate objects. Any metallic items within 10 feet will be drawn to the affected target. Duration is only 2 posts.
Rank Requirement: 2
Ginto Required: 1
Kleiner Bereich (Tiny sphere) - A simple technique that creates a 1ft orb in the caster's hand. As long as the caster holds the small ball it will not explode. Once released any impact will cause the orb to erupt into a 4 foot explosion. It can be made to detonate sooner simply by saying "Druckwelle"
Rank requirement: 1
Ginto required: 1 | |
| | | | Koleri
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| | Subject: Re: Ginto List (Open for submissions) Mon Sep 24, 2012 12:52 pm | |
| Is thi all the ginto that's been added? Can more be submitted still? | |
| | | | Koleri
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| | Subject: Re: Ginto List (Open for submissions) Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:04 am | |
| How about a ginto that makes a tornado? It can be used to knock people around it's like that game infamous he can thrown lightning tornados that pulls things in and tosses them around. MAbye nothing that big but it can suck things in and blow everyone away. | |
| | | | Koleri
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| | Subject: Re: Ginto List (Open for submissions) Wed Oct 24, 2012 11:34 am | |
| 3 Rings that bind the target that circle around them. The fly at them and like a lasso and grab their arms hands. Aslo can we have those landmine things he used? Ishaida used bombs to make that Yammy guy fall through the ground. | |
| | | | Arawn
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| | Subject: Re: Ginto List (Open for submissions) Wed Oct 24, 2012 12:01 pm | |
| I've played inFamous, I hope you're not meaning the giant hurricane attack he gets. If so don't expect it to be low level ginto. A smaller version might be possible, but it's up to you. That aside if you wish to submit more ginto at least try to make something similar to those already listed
Name of ginto - (Ginto's effect)
Rank required
Ginto required
Something like that or at least along those lines. Chant if possible. Those things aren't easy to come up with. iirc Quincy use german. | |
| | | | Koleri
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Age : 31
Registration Date : 2012-09-17
| | Subject: Re: Ginto List (Open for submissions) Wed Oct 24, 2012 5:06 pm | |
| Orkan - Makes hurricane of reiatsu to sweep everything up and blow them away
Rank 2?
Ginto 2 | |
| | | | Arawn
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| | Subject: Re: Ginto List (Open for submissions) Tue Nov 06, 2012 12:13 pm | |
| - Koleri wrote:
- Orkan - Makes hurricane of reiatsu to sweep everything up and blow them away
Rank 2?
Ginto 2 Niedrig Orkan - A funnel of blue energy is created. This vortex measure five feet wide and six feet tall. Although energy based the twisted causes wind to shift around it like a true hurricane. Once released it travels in a straight line in front of the caser/user, sweeping anything away in it's path. After 1 post the wind dissipates. Rank requited: 2 Ginto required: 2 How's that? | |
| | | | Hadoland
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Quote : Hado! Number.... Wait, what?!
Registration Date : 2009-07-02
| | Subject: Re: Ginto List (Open for submissions) Thu Mar 28, 2013 6:56 pm | |
| Die Frist des Engels(Angel's respite) -
As the Quincy uncaps the tube, the liquid oozes its way up the Quincy's bow arm. A strong, protective layer of "skin" is formed over the prospective user, filled with the combined strength of the strange liquid and the Quincy himself. The skin locks the Quincy's hand in the shape of a fist, and without cancellation of the technique prevents him from doing anything with that hand, other than firing his signature bow and perhaps striking at an enemy. Upon a strike being used up, some of the liquid is blasted away, and the remaining liquid coating your arm spreads itself thinner to fill the gap. This protective skin can withstand a decent load of punishment. The liquid can only remain nonrestrictive for five posts; usage of this technique past this threshold will result in the liquid hardening and complete loss of movement to your bow arm. This ginto has no effect on adversaries 2 ranks your superior. For foes one rank above you, it can shield 3 attacks. (Basically, dispel the damn thing before that can happen)
Rank required: 2
Ginto required: 1
Last edited by Hadoland on Wed Apr 03, 2013 4:03 pm; edited 3 times in total (Reason for editing : Balance.) | |
| | | | Shikuro
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| | Subject: Re: Ginto List (Open for submissions) Thu Mar 28, 2013 10:10 pm | |
| I see no problem with this new Ginto seeing as the rank might be alittle low but as its power is determinated by your own rank it doesn't matter. So if no other has any objections I'll be adding it for the list. | |
| | | | Arawn
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| | Subject: Re: Ginto List (Open for submissions) Fri Mar 29, 2013 12:13 am | |
| - Quote :
- Die Frist des Engels(Angel's respite) -
As the Quincy uncaps the tube, the liquid oozes its way up the Quincy's bow arm. A strong, protective layer of "skin" is formed over the prospective user, filled with the combined strength of the strange liquid and the Quincy himself. The skin locks the Quincy's hand in the shape of a fist, and without cancellation of the technique prevents him from doing anything with that hand, other than firing his signature bow and perhaps striking at an enemy. Upon a strike being used up, some of the liquid is blasted away, and the remaining liquid coating your arm spreads itself thinner to fill the gap. This protective skin can hold for either 5 strikes, 5 blocks, or a combination of the two. The liquid can only remain nonrestrictive for five posts; usage of this technique past this threshold will result in the liquid hardening and complete loss of movement to your bow arm. This ginto has no effect on adversaries 2 ranks your superior. For foes one rank above you, it can shield 3 attacks. (Basically, dispel the damn thing before that can happen)
Rank required: 2
Ginto required: 1
At first I thought it was stoneskin spell, but it's something more. A rather confusing of a tech. It restricts the hand into a fist, but you can use your bow still? It's one or the other, not both. Later you mention the liquid hardening as a consequence of not dispelling the ginto. The whole blocks 5 doesn't work since as Shikuro says it's based on your power. The opponent's rank shouldn't matter as much as the power of the attack being used. Let's say you have 20 Spirit and someone is 50 Spirit/Fighting skill attacking. Can't just say it can handles anything, it's limited. Given that number I would say that blocker would lose 3 shields to block such a strike (50 - 20 = 30, 30 - 20 = 10, 10 - 20 = -10.) but even then they would feel the recoil from the blow. Hitting someone with it using up a shield regardless of the strength of the defender. Otherwise for rank 2 that's too powerful. At most a rank 4 or 5 to do all that you mention. | |
| | | | Shikuro
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| | Subject: Re: Ginto List (Open for submissions) Fri Mar 29, 2013 8:50 am | |
| Arawn while I do understand your concerns you can't ask for that doing this time, you can ask for it to be placed due to the except that it falls back to the old system but as it is right now our stats don't matter, its only ranks. So Arawn with the current trail system this tech only works by defining ranks. As right now no one got any sp. | |
| | | | Arawn
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| | Subject: Re: Ginto List (Open for submissions) Sat Mar 30, 2013 12:06 am | |
| I do agree with you Shikuro, but you're missing the point. Much like kido spells have a fixed effect, rather than varies as ranks. For the most part let's do another example.
Let's say Hado ,rank 2, and you, Shikuro rank 6, are fighting. By the rules of this spell it won't work on you. Saying it doesn't work on people 2 ranks higher than you the caster is well and good, but the spell would work, just not very effective when someone is higher than you. The greater gap the less likely the shield will hold. But then again that's not quite it. Now let's say Hado is rank 5 and Shikuro is still rank 6. By the other rule of the spell, his ginto is only 3 shells. Okay, but does that take into account the abilities of the attacker? If you use bankai wouldn't the gap between you be more pronounced? Could it still be used 3 times? What about the type of attacks used? Can you say how much damage/power of the opponent's attacks? What about cero? What about someone like Tatsuya's fire abilities? Fire won't exactly bounce off or be stopped by such a skill. My point about based on the power of the user stands. Saying how a spell reacts based on rank is moot. Something like "The greater the strength of the attack the less effective" So even if it has 5 impacts total, you can RP it breaking more than one since the opponent is too strong, or you power is too weak. | |
| | | | Shikuro
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| | Subject: Re: Ginto List (Open for submissions) Sat Mar 30, 2013 9:33 am | |
| Well while I agree with you Arawn the account of what sort of ability should really be taken in, but I don't see how we can put technical terms in over it with our current situation, since saying that bankai wrecks it more than a regular attack, the same goes for shikai, and indefinetly what is a rank 2 Quincy and a rank 2 Shini while the Shini has shikai out should again budge the count it could take down, so even putting a fixated number on it might be impossible as what if someone with perhaps Shin's shai wraps around his arm and does constant damage on it, how long does it last against that, does poison work on it, what about acid, rather just make a term of saying a pretty strong defence and then hope that as we entrust our members to be reasonable in this period of no stats we need to do the same about our Kido/Ginto then if we go back to stats, if this no stats doesn't work it needs to be revised so that it fits some strenght acording to tech and sp. That is my thoughts on it, I'm not sure how it is done and well I haven't put much thought into it, but I beleive its needed. | |
| | | | Hadoland
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| | Subject: Re: Ginto List (Open for submissions) Sat Mar 30, 2013 10:52 am | |
| Well Arawn, I'm working off your own current system. I don't understand why you're bringing stats into the equation since you quite literally did away with them, otherwise I would most certainly be making note of them. Also, the hand with which you hold the bow is restricted into a fist, not the one you use to draw back the string. Even more importantly, it is NOT a perfect shield, it can only cover ONE ARM. The reason it does not take into account the specific abilities of the attacker is because it can ALSO be defeated by a flurry of light attacks. Using one large attack in attempts to shatter it is outright silly. Additionally; the technique has little to NO effect on any area of effect abilities as it only covers a single arm. You're seriously over thinking the effectiveness of this spell, Arawn. So sure, if you concentrate the entirety of an abilities firepower at his right arm, you might break it in one hit. That is quite simply a terrible waste of energy as I reiterate, it only covers YOUR RIGHT ARM. It really doesn't help that I forgot to add in the part where techniques count as 2 usages when you try to block those, but still. My point still stands. | |
| | | | Arawn
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| | Subject: Re: Ginto List (Open for submissions) Sat Mar 30, 2013 2:55 pm | |
| The point is you cannot guarantee the effectiveness of the spell. I used the numbers to better illustrate that. Then the second example to further show it. You cannot say what it will do for ranks above or below you. What it's supposed to do, and what it really does are two separate things. We need the spells/abilities to be easy for others to understand so when they look up when the opponent or they use it. It all seems simple to you; as you created it and understand how you want it to work/look. Having it do one thing, but then can cancel that. If you do cancel that it will do another. Seems you have very specific thought on how you want to use it or how it should be used. KISS is the mantra. | |
| | | | Hadoland
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| | Subject: Re: Ginto List (Open for submissions) Sat Mar 30, 2013 2:57 pm | |
| Arawn, it IS simple, you're the only one over complicating anything.
On another note, you're addressing a problem with your own system. No matter how I write this I cannot possibly account for differences in ability strength as there's no conflict resolution system
Last edited by Arawn on Sun Mar 31, 2013 12:48 am; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : Double posted so combined them) | |
| | | | Shikuro
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| | Subject: Re: Ginto List (Open for submissions) Sun Mar 31, 2013 12:44 am | |
| As I said before... even though I prmissed myself to stay out of this one, but it seemes I was overlooked. Instead of defining the exact layers just indicate it should be a decent protection layer of the bow arm, where as to normal attacks of a person your own level should maybe be able to withstand 5 blows, or more I don't know if it makes it too weak. As that should explain why its 5 blows both taken and given as you hit about as strong as the one attacking, then its up for the people here on the board to not powerplay this one, they have an idea of what 5 normal strikes of a characters own level is. Mentioning its a Layer that hardenes also takes care of the problem about fire attacks and what not as its a protective layer not a shield. | |
| | | | Hadoland
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| | Subject: Re: Ginto List (Open for submissions) Sun Mar 31, 2013 11:11 am | |
| Alright Shik, sounds okay to me. | |
| | | | Shikuro
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| | Subject: Re: Ginto List (Open for submissions) Sun Mar 31, 2013 12:01 pm | |
| Well Arawn has his opinions aswell, so he needs to accept it aswell. | |
| | | | Hadoland
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| | Subject: Re: Ginto List (Open for submissions) Wed Apr 03, 2013 4:10 pm | |
| Edited original one.
Healing Ginto(Needs a better name eh? - The Quincy pours the concentrated Reiryoku onto the wound they seek to heal. The spirit user then channels their own energy into the otherwise useless liquid; the healing substance begins to rebind flesh, clot bleeding and prevent infection. This healing can take anywhere from 5 seconds to 5 hours, depending on the severity of the wound. As such, it is seldom ever useful in combat. (This one I just thought up off the top of my head, could probably use some editing/help on this one. I couldn't actually remember if any healing Ginto was ever implemented.)
Rank Requirement: X(Not sure on this one)
Ginto Required: 1-3 (Depending on the severity of the wound | |
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