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PostSubject: WE definitely need Captains   Thu Nov 26, 2009 3:52 pm

And other positions for races, at least allow like 5 for each race. The story line will not be complete without a captain to pwnt or a Espada to rape XD, I know some people might not deserve it but thats why you should carefully check RP samples for people who try to apply for a captains position, that and their personality and their abilities.
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PostSubject: Re: WE definitely need Captains   Thu Nov 26, 2009 4:58 pm

and we will have Captains and Espada, once people reach the required stat levels- i don't think it's a good idea to merely hand captaincies to people, mostly because there will be cries of lack of fairness in the matter. also, where's the joy in becoming Captain if it didn't come with lotsa hard work?
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PostSubject: Re: WE definitely need Captains   Thu Nov 26, 2009 5:29 pm

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and we will have Captains and Espada, once people reach the required stat levels- i don't think it's a good idea to merely hand captaincies to people, mostly because there will be cries of lack of fairness in the matter. also, where's the joy in becoming Captain if it didn't come with lotsa hard work?

Have you not read my post? I am saying we should give people a chance, Anyone who wants to be a captain can make out their own Captain character template and provide their RP sample, the Admin(s) can look over it and see if a person is captain material by their personality and abilities (Since we all do not want a bunch of byaluya types in terms of persona and unqiue Zan ability) and there is lots of joy in being a captain, People can have the option of either not becoming a captain by not participating in this event if tey want to obtain captaincy through their hard labor or they can just sign up and probably get rejected
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PostSubject: Re: WE definitely need Captains   Mon Nov 30, 2009 8:41 pm

And the admin has looked over your suggestion and will repeat what Ryouta just said. People, regardless of potential gleaned from RP, wont be handed uber strong characters just for the sake of the matter. If we did that then what's the point in having the stat system? Why not simply assign stat points for every person who joins?

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PostSubject: Re: WE definitely need Captains   Mon Nov 30, 2009 9:37 pm

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And the admin has looked over your suggestion and will repeat what Ryouta just said. People, regardless of potential gleaned from RP, wont be handed uber strong characters just for the sake of the matter. If we did that then what's the point in having the stat system? Why not simply assign stat points for every person who joins?

Handing out uber strong characters? No no no it is nothing like that, authority (RP wise) Is lacking with the divisions. Sure it may seem suitable to some people to just allow people to gain captain positions but I am not saying anybody can just obtain a captain position. Like put a Mod or current captain in a fight with someone who wants to be a captain and test their rping skills as well as how they carry their character and whether or not they have the potential to be captains. The point of the stat system would have to be to allow a person to become stronger, you can give stat boosts but you do not have to max out a captains stat, others can work their way up if they are not suited for the captains position. So saying you are handing out anything is exaggeration when we are really just giving the high position to people who might actually deserve it. Take kuro for example, He is someone who puts everything into his rp posts and he acts like a captain, In fact while I was feigning ignorance in a post with him I most likely would have thought he was a captain because of how well he rped and acted. Thats all I'm saying. And for people who join afterwords it would be rather unfortunate if they came late but hey new comers shouldn't be able to obtain such power anyways without being tested.
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PostSubject: Re: WE definitely need Captains   Tue Dec 01, 2009 5:08 pm

i still don't like it- just because somebody rps well doesn't mean they should just be handed the Captain position. a Captain should be someone who rps well, true. but a Captain needs to be incredibly strong, and while Kuro is strong, he is not Captain level. nobody is except kaito at the moment, i think, but Ryouta's getting there...
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PostSubject: Re: WE definitely need Captains   Tue Dec 01, 2009 11:03 pm

Vice Captains perhaps... but not Captains... A Captain should at least have bankai (Don't even say Kenpachi...) and for that you must reach the required stats...

Btw... speaking of stats... I think you can take shikai now Zaq...

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PostSubject: Re: WE definitely need Captains   Wed Dec 02, 2009 10:18 am

I don't want it. SHikai is boring and uninteresting to me as well as Bankai at the moment. I think I'll stick with my zanjutsu.
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PostSubject: Re: WE definitely need Captains   Thu Dec 24, 2009 9:16 pm

Sorry I'm answering late, but we do have a few captain candidates, there's Ryouta right now who would be the first pick and I would be one potentially...hopefully soon...once I get off my ass and get a bankai...
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PostSubject: Re: WE definitely need Captains   Fri Jan 01, 2010 2:57 am

Don't forget Kuro!...And me...Once I get the determination....
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PostSubject: Re: WE definitely need Captains   Fri Jan 01, 2010 11:32 am

hmmm >.>
we do need Captains and higher ranks..... It's possible also our storyline would work 'better' if we didn't have so many other stat posts and issues surrounding it, plus initial rp would be more inviting to members if the currently daunting task of reaching astronomical stat points were removed *shrugs* i dunno, i can see the usefulness in both structures....maybe a ranking system instead of stat points?.....i dunno >.< feel free to shoot such fleeting thoughts down into the dust xP
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PostSubject: Re: WE definitely need Captains   Fri Jan 01, 2010 9:31 pm

ranking system would work, it would be based on raw rp ability rather than how many stats a person had. But at the same time, it would remove the need to put a lot of effort to gain strength and success. Some would see this as not a problem. I personally can go either way with it. My work and college life doesn't allow me to fully keep up with training posts so the point system can get in the way of some progress sometimes. On the other hand, a rank system instead of designated stat points would lead to a bit of...I don't want to say godmod, but rather adaptation. When designing a character, without a stat system you'd have to decide what your character specializes in and what they're capable of. In a rp fight, some would lose sight of that in a blind effort to win. I'm not saying that the original character is set in stone, but we'd have to keep a close eye on their roleplay and how the character develops from the original application to keep track on their limits. Like I said, I'm fine with whatever we do. The current system is a little difficult and unattractive to a few, but I can work with it. Ranking would have its benefits too. I'll work to support whatever is decided.
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PostSubject: Re: WE definitely need Captains   Sat Jan 02, 2010 4:20 pm

i think that if we did do the ranking system, it would definitely make the goal of becoming espada and captains seem more attainable. we'd get more members that way i think
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PostSubject: Re: WE definitely need Captains   Sat Jan 02, 2010 7:16 pm

Also, if we were to take on the ranking system it would be much like gaining shikai/Bankai etc say for examply people would still start as an academy student and to graduate to a full shinigami a post would need to be made of x amount of words in each sub-category of the academy before the admins/mods approved said character for the next rank

Obviously those with high stat points currently would be given an automatic jump to their chosen rank, so as to be fair and not ignore their hard work for posting, but it could be a similar system to the stat points...only a bit simpler?

Thoughts? Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: WE definitely need Captains   Sat Jan 02, 2010 7:22 pm

*Sigh* This is too much for me. Put me down as a maybe >.<
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PostSubject: Re: WE definitely need Captains   Sat Jan 02, 2010 11:14 pm

Well if we are in favor of this guys what do say we start deciding how we are gonna rank this up...how about breaking it down into these catergories:

Zanjustu:
Hakuda:
Bakudo:
Hado:
Hohou:
Speed:
Reiatsu:
Spirit Power or Energy (Will explain):
Stamina:
Strength:

*Spirit Power/Energy is just how much spiritual power the soul has built up inside of it. Whereas Reiatsu is the actual pressure that the spiritual energy exerts on the surrounding area around it.

On top of the listed stuff, we can have the users list certain abilities that are unique to themselves (Shunko, Utsusemi, Senka, Inventions, Remodeling of body) stuff like that. Well...this is provided you guys like my idea. The ranking system would be from 0 to 11. 0 being the strength of an academy student and 11 being the strength of a Captain Commander/Royal Guard Commander. I have everything in between figured out, but I wanna see how you guys like the idea so far...haha....
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PostSubject: Re: WE definitely need Captains   Sun Jan 03, 2010 1:38 am

cool system....I think it's unique and cool.
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PostSubject: Re: WE definitely need Captains   Sun Jan 03, 2010 8:39 am

xD this is why people can always rely on Kaito Razz
lol i think it looks really good Very Happy It's different to almost every other bleach site and unique like Kuro said, as well as seeming fairly simple and seeing as the numbers only go up to 11 the task seems less daunting and more worth the effort for any prospective new members ^_^

...whats the in-between? Smile

Although i gotta say i don't quite get the difference between Reiatsu and Spirit Power or Energy still xP *feels slow*

Could we use just what we currently have stat points for as the ranking? >.>


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PostSubject: Re: WE definitely need Captains   Sun Jan 03, 2010 11:34 am

I find this to be over-complex. I'm still clinging onto the stat system.
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PostSubject: Re: WE definitely need Captains   Sun Jan 03, 2010 1:56 pm

*bows thankfully* Thank you Kaiyo-san

The in betweens are as follows:

10 - Specialty of Veteran Captain/Royal Guard Lt.
9 - Veteran Captain/Royal Guard Sgt.
8 - Experienced Captain/Royal Guard Corp.
7 - New Captain/Royal Guard Pvt.
6 - Vice-Captain/ Bankai
5 - Vice Captain
4 - 3rd seat
3 - 4th - 5th seat
2 - 6th seat or lower
1 - Unseated Shinigami

*each stat category would have one of these numbers next to them. So I would say we can do a general estimation if we were to transfer the stats over from our current system. Also we could come up with the hollow equivalent fairly easy and I have already thought of a way to integrate Vizard into the equation. I have two ways so if anyone is up for them I will be glad to explain.

As for Kaiyo-san...what the difference is a person can have lots of spiritual energy and not have very much spiritual pressure. For instance, Chad and even Uryu have a large amount of spiritual energy, but compared to the opponents they face their spiritual pressure is a bit weaker mostly since they are humans. Not that its impossible for them to get there they just haven't yet.

But....as much I love this idea and if we do switch I would like to use it...I'm inclined to side with Saroki-chan in the moment. haha simply because I have alot of stats, but it would be fun if we did this system. Also in determining captains all we would have to do is to average out all the skills and if the average is above a 7 or so then that person is eligible for captain. This way the flow of captain is alot faster and more competitive.
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PostSubject: Re: WE definitely need Captains   Sun Jan 03, 2010 2:12 pm

....i don't wanna go against everyone as i rarely do and i can see when your coming from Kaito, seeing as you have the most points and spent a lot of time working to towards that, we could just give you the highest rank, or one of your choice entirely.....
I just think we need to increase the forum... 'traffic' if you will, and we can't do that with the stat system.

If you both feel that strongly against it i'll be quiet and we could come back to this point in a couple of months...but as it is, i'm gunna, for once, hop off the fence and stand vaguely strongly on the side of the ranking system Very Happy

p.s thanks for explaining it ^_^
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PostSubject: Re: WE definitely need Captains   Sun Jan 03, 2010 6:35 pm

I'm all down for doing what's best for the site, Kaiyo. Lead the way after all you are the admin that we must adhere to.
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PostSubject: Re: WE definitely need Captains   Mon Jan 04, 2010 2:08 pm

meh i don't wanna enforce something people aren't on board with....
Revise this idea at a later good? Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: WE definitely need Captains   Mon Jan 04, 2010 5:47 pm

i still like it. i'm wholeheartedly in favor- and that's not likely to change, saroki Razz

lol jk, i don't mean to stick my virtual tongue out at you Smile
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PostSubject: Re: WE definitely need Captains   Tue Jan 05, 2010 1:52 am

so just to clarify...Ryouta, Kaiyo, Kuro, are all in favor of the new ranking system? My, my now that's quite a number of mods in agreement...geez...looks we might actually switch it up here...still I wouldn't mind either way so I get two votes I guess. One in favor and one not in favor lol
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