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PostSubject: Remake the Quincy system.   Remake the Quincy system. I_icon_minitimeThu Jul 08, 2010 11:12 am

Yeah the Quincy system here is horrible.... no offense. Every other race is allowed to choose their starting abilities, except for the Quincy. The Quincy must use the canon Ginto and a normal Quincy bow.

A Quincy's bow is an item... Not some weapon created by your soul. A Quincy should be allowed to design their own bow and have some uniqueness about them.
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PostSubject: Re: Remake the Quincy system.   Remake the Quincy system. I_icon_minitimeThu Jul 08, 2010 12:12 pm

Gram Crackers wrote:
Yeah the Quincy system here is horrible.... no offense. Every other race is allowed to choose their starting abilities, except for the Quincy.

A Quincy should be allowed to design their own bow and have some uniqueness about them.

While theres nothing I can do about it, that does seem unfair. With it in mind.. there isn't much to motivate someone to play Quincy if they don't get unique abilities. Anyway, I guess I agree.
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PostSubject: Re: Remake the Quincy system.   Remake the Quincy system. I_icon_minitimeThu Jul 08, 2010 12:50 pm

Rank-1 access to Heizen ginto technique
Rank-2 access to Gritz ginto techinque, Access to Hirenkyaku
Rank-3 Access to bow of their own design or sanrei glove(unable to remove), Mastery of Hirenkyaku
Rank-4 Access to Wolke ginto technique
Rank-5 No new techinques
Rank-6 New bow of own design or of canon design(pentacle bow), Access to 1 Seele Schnider
Rank-7 Access to a total of 3 Seele schnider
Rank-8 Access to 5 Seele Schnider, Enabling Sprenger
Rank-9 Mastery of Bow, Able to restore power to a Sanrei glove user.
Rank-10 Ultimate bow achived(Rper's design) with special ablity
Rank-11 Complete mastery of Quincy ablities

This was designed with the other quincy on this site... Shinigami get their sealed Zanpaktou and abit of kidou... while there COULD be a custom Ginto technique thread... There are not enough Quincies to actually use them...

And honestly this is what we have in place with the already Canon things... with abit of leinency...

Rank-3 Access to bow of their own design or sanrei glove(unable to remove), Mastery of Hirenkyaku

thats when you get your own bow with teh power of the unremoved sanrei glove... and the same Rank as Shikai... And i have a feeling you have been here before...
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PostSubject: Re: Remake the Quincy system.   Remake the Quincy system. I_icon_minitimeThu Jul 08, 2010 1:44 pm

I do have to admit I didn't really look at Quincy since it dealt mainly in ranged attacks. But based on the manga/anime the generic bow was first (rookie or low rank), then the glove, then the custom bow. Can't say much for the techniques. I would think quincy would have various techniques as shinigami have a variety of kido. Even the rookie shinigami only get the nameless generic swords, then semi-customized personal swords, and finally shikai customized.
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PostSubject: Re: Remake the Quincy system.   Remake the Quincy system. I_icon_minitimeFri Jul 09, 2010 2:26 am

Alright first of all, an item created by your soul would be unique, that does not support your argument. Just saying Razz.

Now, a rank 0 Quincy, which is what you're starting at Gram, is at the level of an academy student, they have issues with pretty much anything but smallfry hollow, now you say that Shinigami have Kido, ok, but the problem like Darky here said we would need to design more Ginto. The other races other than Shinigami are allowed to choose their starting ability simply because, well they couldn't fight anything if they couldn't do that. The Quincy get their bow much like a Shinigami gets their initial sword, as a rookie there isn't much variation. You said it yourself that the Quincy bow is a weapon, wouldn't it make sense that LOW LEVEL quincy get the standardized mass produced weapon?

The Sanrei glove is a weapon that increases your ability to absorb Reishi, you still use the same cross, the only problem is more of your own spiritual energy is used into it, which does come from your soul, thereby influencing the appearance of it.

I do however have a recommendation, a custom ability at rank 3 then 6 and a final at 10.
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PostSubject: Re: Remake the Quincy system.   Remake the Quincy system. I_icon_minitimeFri Jul 09, 2010 10:47 am

Yes, 3 and 6 but not 10. Shinigami get shikai and bankai at 3 and 6, 10 is just a mastery of those...

Darkness and Hado can hammer all of that out, perhaps I'll give them a gold star for doing so...
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PostSubject: Re: Remake the Quincy system.   Remake the Quincy system. I_icon_minitimeFri Jul 09, 2010 10:56 am

Marly we had decided that Ryukens bow as another evolution of the Quincy... And was About Rank 10...Ya can see where we got that from...
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PostSubject: Re: Remake the Quincy system.   Remake the Quincy system. I_icon_minitimeFri Jul 09, 2010 1:07 pm

As you say however, Shinigami get Three abilities for their Shikai eventually and two for their Bankai. We could make Quincy somewhat like, 3 is a new bow and ability then one at five. 6 is a new bow and ability than one at 7. Then a final one, the most uberly epic one. At 10, their final bow.
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PostSubject: Re: Remake the Quincy system.   Remake the Quincy system. I_icon_minitimeFri Jul 09, 2010 3:56 pm

Just write it up, get Gram to approve of it, then set it up in suggestions so that we can cast our votes...

I'll most likely have Darkness post it in the admin forum as well so we can get a staff-only approval and compare the two polls...

I'm appointing Darkness, Hadoland, and Gram Crackers as the development team of the Quincy...
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PostSubject: Re: Remake the Quincy system.   Remake the Quincy system. I_icon_minitimeFri Jul 09, 2010 7:35 pm

Alright, this is what I think it should be.

Rank-1 Access to Heizen Ginto technique.
Rank-2 Access to Gritz Ginto techinque, Access to Hirenkyaku.
Rank-3 Sanrei glove(unable to remove), Access to bow of their own design and one custom ability, Mastery of Hirenkyaku.
Rank-4 Access to Wolke Ginto technique.
Rank-5 One other custom ability.
Rank-6 New bow of own design or of canon design(pentacle bow) another custom ability, Access to 1 Seele Schnider.
Rank-7 Access to a total of 3 Seele Schnider and another custom ability.
Rank-8 Access to 5 Seele Schnider, Enabling Sprenger.
Rank-9 Mastery of Bow, Able to restore power to a Sanrei glove user.
Rank-10 Ultimate bow achieved(Rper's design) with final ability.
Rank-11 Complete mastery of Quincy abilities.

One thing I think we need to add somewhere on the site is custom Ginto and the minimum level they can be trained. One thing I did forget to mention earlier, I do not appreciate the "This system is horrible" If you do not like the system just state so, that was unnecessary.
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PostSubject: Re: Remake the Quincy system.   Remake the Quincy system. I_icon_minitimeSat Jul 10, 2010 2:16 pm

well lemme see... I do have to ask but do you keep all teh custom ablities from your previous bow... Or What not... And how did i get wrangled into this?

Other than that... I approve but now Gram Crackers Must approve... And perhaps i will do something...

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PostSubject: Re: Remake the Quincy system.   Remake the Quincy system. I_icon_minitimeSat Jul 10, 2010 2:29 pm

Well, from what Ri tells me, Shinigami keep the previous abilities from their Shikai when they're in Bankai, so I see no reason why not.
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